"I was deferred [from the service]. I was very surprised. One time I spoke with Natcha Tellez, the sister of Humpty. I told her that I was deferred. She asked why I was [deferred] and not one of her relatives. The reason I was deferred was because I was doing defense work.

Often times the people did not speak up. A brother of Humpty was killed in the war. They were going to draft Humpty, Natcha told me this. Señor Morales was on the draft board. Barlett, Natcha’s husband spoke to him. Humpty’s mother was very sad. Barlett and his wife went to see Morales. Saturnino Morales told them, “Many people can avoid things but they do not know how to do it.” They deferred him [Humpty], they did not take him. His [real] name is Arturo Tellez, Donald’s father. Donald died. [He was a] very handsome young man.

Some of them [the men] went [to war]. They [PD] brought people from Jamaica, blacks. They were happy, always joyful. They [sang] and they danced. They were very spirited. Irene’s husband, he died a few days ago. He was one of the soldiers that they brought from the service to work in Morenci. There were some [blacks] that were very Mexicanized. Floyd and I cannot remember the other’s name. Their father used a mule to deliver groceries from the store. They were blacks from Morenci, very Mexcanized.

They [my brothers and sisters] remained in Aguas Calientes, then came to Tucson and from here they went to San Diego. There they live. Yes, [I am the oldest]."